“I talked to a poet, originally from the UK but living in NYC for decades now, about the charisma of spaces the other day. He thought that it was largely the history of spaces that makes them charismatic. When I asked him, what the most charismatic place in NYC was for him, he said it might be the Grand Central Station (which I still have not been to). I also told him about our collaboration and about the video David and you shot, about the session with Ali, and about the lines on the floor. I think he was then trying to figure out what the “piece” was we were working on. I told him that there wasn’t a piece, that we are just playing, which was a completely new thought to him, which clearly puzzled him. Not in a bad way. And that lead us to talking about that generosity. Also in regards to the salon flux event. And in a way I think that this trust in each other and this generosity which enables the experimentation is maybe, possibly the most precious and invaluable thing we have, or have created.”